Ellen might have influenced this, but my mom has to act like a Late Boomer. I did tell someone her age at an event, a kid to see. I told my mom.. You can't stop her and stuff. If you wanna be like her, that's not her fault.
I never said to ruin Ellen. I have to say what happened, I mean Ellen is not the only 1 responsible, but she's like a price to pay. Everyone wants to be on her show, unless they'd "rather die than be a public speaker." Not sure how the last part goes, depends on the conversation.